RestrictPlanet(system,planet)
RestrictQuad(system,ring,quad)
Ships would then have the option to 'abide by affiliaition restrictions'. So its a 'opt in' system and it would be per affiliation. So if you were entering DTR space you might
ObeyAffiliationRestrictions(DTR)
This would then stop the ship if it tried to enter the restricted space.
Because while I'd like to abide, say, not moving through DTR restricted in Venice, I certainly wouldn't like to abide to restriction done by AFF XXX all around ring 10 of Yank, or to any AFF one might be at war with?
I'll upset a few players with my comments,but not really my intention
Do you lot want to be spoon fed all the time????
If an aff wants to set up a restricted area as have the DTR that's fine..no problem.It's up to that aff to enforce the restriction and it's also up to everyone else to make sure they stay out of that area.
If we go down the path of being able to set up options whereby ships will automatically avoid such areas we're on the slippery slope to less player interaction and the game just becomes about click on the right orders.
Just my opinion!!
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| If we go down the path of being able to set up options whereby ships will automatically avoid such areas we're on the slippery slope to less player interaction and the game just becomes about click on the right orders. |
Were already half way down that slope, i mean you can just say "go to starbase xyz" and off your ships goes, how about we make it so you have to move quadrent by quadrent that would be far more player interaction.
note: i voted yes
personally i find having to vet my moves to make sure my dubassed captains don't fly straight though hot zones is annoying.
if i'm paying some guy to fly my ship i expect to say, take xyz to abc and be quick about it, and then it's done. else i may as well stop paying them and fly all the ships myself right?
Dan
Frankly speaking, I voted yes, but with only a few ship exceptions, I would plan on using my own skills (or lack thereof) in doing my turns. I'ts part of the fun.
Llyewlyn
| QUOTE (Ted @ Sep 24 2004, 01:52 AM) |
| Do you lot want to be spoon fed all the time???? |
Quite simply, yes please!
Trading takes long enough as it is, so I don't want to spend an extra 5-10 mins checking the ships route everytime. I may aswell ignore the Move To orders and do it all manually - which means more personal time spent on each ship, or less ships in the game.
I believe it will allow me to concentrate more on the details...
(Says the player whose warships destroyed a BHD ship in a DTR Restricted Area yesterday...)
Really, players need a chance to make mistakes and cause friction in the game.
Besides, I think it was Blair who raised a very serious point: You could not blame trespassing on inexperienced newbie players or an excusable oversight with these rules. Any trespassing would definitely be a hostile act. Certainly the DTR would never accept the default setting to "no" as an excuse for anything if the rules kick in!
So in a way, I feel the game would be losing more than it gains from the proposed mechanic.
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| Is this an abide by AFF option? |
Totally. You have to opt in to this, not out.
Also there would be no connection between system owner and restrictions, because thats not what this is about. Its about doing what another affiliation asks.
| QUOTE (David Bethel @ Sep 24 2004, 08:38 AM) | ||
Totally. You have to opt in to this, not out. Also there would be no connection between system owner and restrictions, because thats not what this is about. Its about doing what another affiliation asks. |
Then you would be needing to be able to opt-in or opt-out for specific systems or restriction.
Ofcoourse IND's can't place restrictions as they aren't an affliation.
Would be annoying if you'd adding say RIP to your abide list and then they restict the whole of ring 9 in say yank
If you have to implement something like this, and not sure on the feasibility of it, but would a political list generated by an order to "Avoid OQ {system} {OQ}" not be a better way to go? That way players can build up a personal list of areas of space to avoid when using the "travel to xxx" orders?
Blair's idea of each player being able to input the orders to their ships individually is a good one, although I could still see the DTR (or any other aff that has restricted quads) using the fact that the mechanism existed as an argument to never believe that a new star captain entered the quad by mistake as their aff should have made them enter the info when they joined.
Does anyone know how I can change my vote?
Darren
| QUOTE (Darrenworthy @ Sep 30 2004, 07:42 AM) |
| Having voted yes I must admit that Ted, Frabby and Blair have now persuaded me that it would be a bad idea to remove the chances of errors from the game in this way. |
Yes... the force is strong within them.
I too am considering changing my vote, but not 100% convinced yet
| QUOTE (Clay @ Sep 29 2004, 11:03 PM) |
| Yes... the force is strong within them. I too am considering changing my vote, but not 100% convinced yet |
Yes is not the vote you are looking for. Move along!
If the DTR want a restricted quadrant (for example) - then they can request to all other PDs to abide by this. They setup the command so that none of their ships go into that sector. If an affiliation thinks that they have the right to that sector anyway - then they don't submit the command.
If I, as a political, don't want my ships to go anywhere near a certain base because I fell out with the starbases wife - then I can also set that up too.
An IND would use this type of thing as there is no ultimate PD. And PIR would benefit from this too.