i am doing an order to sequence, but its down to luck if they are in order by the looks of it.
i am using the new editor
can you have this checked
| QUOTE (Gandolph @ Oct 5 2005, 07:03 PM) |
| i dont seem to be getting my turns sequenced, i am doing an order to sequence, but its down to luck if they are in order by the looks of it. i am using the new editor can you have this checked |
OK; so it's not just me then. I've been having problems as well.
Nik
anyway my sequencing problems were from a transport, that had a simple move to loation and deliver to the ships, 6 different ships, 3 succeeded 3 failed as the ship wasnt there type thing
Edit: And yes, I know that you can't do this at the day outposts are updated as they are processed first those days.
i only did 2 ships on the sequencing for the next set of orders, and they ran in the wrong order meaning it didnt do the transaction it was meant to.
i even ran some in sequence using the onlije editor to try and make sure deliveries were made and they arent working either.
When you open up the sequencing part some of the turns I've worked on a re already in the sequenced bit.
Correct that and it should be less work for you Mica
At least that's how I observed things to work.
Thomas
im saying the online editor isnt working or somethings gone wrong, as i did 2 ship turns on that as it was important, sequenced them, and EVEN they have turned up.
"on knee's beggin"
Please please please sort the offline editor out ASAP, as it is impossible to run operations of any scale without it.........
please
and just for luck
please
Gord
| QUOTE |
| The online sequence seem to be working ok. |
we sure about that - if we are its most likly easily fixed.
i will message you david with my password etc you can have a look if that helps at all.
forget that, they all re-appeared again when i restarted it
I know you right click on the turn, and you can then sequence them, but do they then run in the order they are in the list on the right, or do all the turns in that list run in any order, but after the position specified in the box at the bottom?
Also, is it possible to sequence one of my turns to run after someone elses turn? For instance if I know another player is transferring cargo to me, and I want to make sure that is done before my orders are processed which will make my ship move off, can I do that by putting their position number into the box at the bottom of the sequencer, or do I have to do as i have been previously, and allow a day to pass, so that the transfer is done on day 1, and then I send my orders to move on day2?
Thanks,
Sees
(baisically cos i couldn't find a way of doing it on the online order editor)
if my memory serves me correctly he did that for free too.
steve
| QUOTE (David Bethel @ Oct 25 2005, 12:32 PM) |
| The offline editors sequenceing was insane, this version has corrected sequenceing. I am going to look at the online sequenceing but the game itself seems to be dealing with it correctly. |
What directory do we save this to so it overwrites the old editor?
Goth
| QUOTE (Pride_Motnahp @ Nov 3 2005, 04:56 PM) |
| what i've done in the past was to send a SA asking mica to secuence my turn after another position. (baisically cos i couldn't find a way of doing it on the online order editor) if my memory serves me correctly he did that for free too. steve |
As your turn was moved to the special action section during the run, it automatically ran last, so no work for me. If you had asked it to be run first or sequence with a set of turns, it would have all gone very wrong.
| QUOTE (Mica Goldstone @ Nov 4 2005, 08:17 AM) | ||
As your turn was moved to the special action section during the run, it automatically ran last, so no work for me. If you had asked it to be run first or sequence with a set of turns, it would have all gone very wrong. |
okay.
got an idea. why not introduce an DELAY PROCESSING order??
From what I understand the computer processes all turns in an random order. so you never know which one get processed first. What this order does, is moving it out of that little hit list and putting it in the big stack of turns doing last...
| QUOTE (Sjaak @ Nov 4 2005, 10:36 AM) |
| From what I understand the computer processes all turns in an random order. so you never know which one get processed first. What this order does, is moving it out of that little hit list and putting it in the big stack of turns doing last... |
Thats basicly what sequecing does when it works
at least after the position that it's squenced after...
at least I assume thats how it works
| QUOTE (Sees With Knowledge @ Nov 3 2005, 11:53 AM) |
| What is the correct way of using the sequencing function? I know you right click on the turn, and you can then sequence them, but do they then run in the order they are in the list on the right, or do all the turns in that list run in any order, but after the position specified in the box at the bottom? Also, is it possible to sequence one of my turns to run after someone elses turn? For instance if I know another player is transferring cargo to me, and I want to make sure that is done before my orders are processed which will make my ship move off, can I do that by putting their position number into the box at the bottom of the sequencer, or do I have to do as i have been previously, and allow a day to pass, so that the transfer is done on day 1, and then I send my orders to move on day2? Thanks, Sees |
Can anyone help with this? Now that it is working properly I would like to make sure I am using it properly
Thanks!
| QUOTE (ptb @ Nov 4 2005, 01:45 PM) | ||
Thats basicly what sequecing does when it works at least after the position that it's squenced after... at least I assume thats how it works |
yep, but if you want to sequence after another player then you are out of luck...
this new order would just say "I AM LAST!!!"... and that makes sure that even if the order of that other person is sequenced he will get an reasonable assurance that it would be processed after the sequence of that player.
Just imagine you want to buy some goods another player is flying in. With that new order, you will say "Wait untill everyone is done"... and then you got your chaince.. as I don't think many people will use that option I don't think that there would be an issue if two players will use it both.
| QUOTE (ptb @ Nov 4 2005, 02:36 PM) |
| I thought you could just set their position number in the sequence thingy? not with the online editor of course but with the offline one. |
Thats what I thought too, type their number in the little box? This is what I have been trying to get confirmed...
In my experience, this has always worked for me, except that all ships in the sequencing box will execute after the number listed in the box (or so it appears). This I find far from ideal, as I would prefer to be able to make the 'sequence after position number' unique to the ship rather than every ship listed in the right hand box.
I thought ships would sequence in the order they were in the sequence list, and if you wanted to sequence after a different places turn then you would enter their position number in the box at the bottom, but I could be very wrong about this, I just don't know and I can't find an explanation of how it works anywhere.
Somehow I think the documentation was written by somebody of the ilk of Vasco da Gama or Christopher Columbus, as it is all a voyage of discovery
I should be a little bit clearer I think.
It is my interpretation that all ships in the right hand box will execute their orders after the position code in the specific field. What the order of the ships in the right hand box may execute in relation to this list is unknown.
However, considering your suggesting that the ships in the right hand box are sequencing in the order listed:
Firstly what is the value of the supplemental data field.
Secondly, if you are correct, then surely it makes sense that one could be able to order them by drag and drop techniques or even a promotional up/down arrow set that could be used to move a seleted ship.
I think therefore that I may be closer to the truth here.
Regards
Archangel
As for the supplemental field... I have to admit never using it, but I assume it is intended to allow you to sequence all of your turns in the "Sequenced Turns" field so they start after another position.
Edit: Oh, and you mean you've never heard David's view on documentation, Archangel?
| QUOTE (Archangel @ Nov 4 2005, 04:44 PM) |
| You are absolutely correct, I can also find no documentation that discusses this aspect of the interface. But then again, no documentation exists which mentions that you can right click on a ship and copy its orders, then paste the same orders as a new orders for a different ship. |
You can ?!? - lol
thank you
Please do tell Gandolf so I know for certain how to do it?
Thx,
Phil
then when you have done your ship orders, right click on any ship and choose sequence turns not the clear all turns (like i did once
, tranfer the ships from the left hand column to the right hand column in the order you want them run then clock ok.bobs your ferkin
Is there a problem with the update, or a problem with my computer?
thanks,
Phil
EDIT:
Sorted now. The editor had crashed earlier in the day and after looking at the running prcesses on my machine I saw it was stuck in memory so the update wasn't working. Did an 'End Process' on it and all is good now
| QUOTE (David Bethel @ Nov 25 2005, 03:50 PM) |
| 1.4.5 should be on the the current version you get from teh online update. This should fix the problem some ppl have been having with the Database/systems |
Just tried that and stll have the 1.4.4 version. Did a personal (with sign on) and then a generic, same result both times (no apparent change).
Geoff
| QUOTE (HPSimms @ Nov 25 2005, 08:37 PM) | ||
Just tried that and stll have the 1.4.4 version. Did a personal (with sign on) and then a generic, same result both times (no apparent change). Geoff |
Same problem here, but if you download the latest beta from the KJC website, then this will update you to 1.4.5
Nik
| QUOTE (Nik @ Nov 27 2005, 08:31 PM) | ||||
Same problem here, but if you download the latest beta from the KJC website, then this will update you to 1.4.5 Nik |
AArrgghh!
Version 1.4.5 reverts back to only showing Starbase numbers, not names etc. So I did an internet update on the hope of correting this, but this changed it all the way back to version 1.4.2. So I reinstalled 1.4.5 and I lost all my turns run so far. Glad I can remember what I've done so far (I hope). Argh!!!!!
Please fix David!
Nik
Anyway, just thought I'd let you know that 1.4.5 still crashes on me on exiting after entering or uploading order..... ho-hum...
| QUOTE |
| Version 1.4.5 reverts back to only showing Starbase numbers, not names etc |
Can you explain that a bit pls - it does not seem to have triggered any memories + i can not see anything similar when i try.
/edit: This turned out to be the same problem as last time, a blank data.cfg was copied over yuo data.cfg... then you had no starbases to show.
| QUOTE |
| Anyway, just thought I'd let you know that 1.4.5 still crashes on me on exiting after entering or uploading order..... |
So basically if you do anything it crashes when you exit ?
| QUOTE (David Bethel @ Nov 28 2005, 10:04 AM) | ||
Can you explain that a bit pls - it does not seem to have triggered any memories + i can not see anything similar when i try. |
On the Buy order there is only a space to enter the starbase number. On older versions there is the space for buy order and a dropdown list of starbases.
| QUOTE (Mica Goldstone @ Nov 28 2005, 02:16 PM) |
| On the Buy order there is only a space to enter the starbase number. On older versions there is the space for buy order and a dropdown list of starbases. |
Why do that at all??
I know that I rarely can remember all of the many starbase numbers, but I can find its name in a list.
Surely it would make sense to assist us older generation players with data entry?
| QUOTE | ||
So basically if you do anything it crashes when you exit ? |
I had the data.cfg problem, so I copied my backed up one back over the new one.
Not 'if I do anything' as I can parse turns and go to Systems data without a problem, but if I enter new orders for positions, and then click the exit button, thats when it crashes. Anyway I have mailed the information you asked for.
| QUOTE (Archangel @ Nov 28 2005, 12:22 PM) | ||
Why do that at all?? I know that I rarely can remember all of the many starbase numbers, but I can find its name in a list. Surely it would make sense to assist us older generation players with data entry? |
I vote to keep both inputting methods, sometimes a know a position number but not the name, I think having both is useful.
| QUOTE (Sees With Knowledge @ Nov 28 2005, 03:17 PM) |
| I vote to keep both inputting methods, sometimes a know a position number but not the name, I think having both is useful. |
Plus it selected the starbase for the number you entered in the list too, which is a really handy confirmation you got it right.
).The online files have now been checked a second time to ensure that every last possible combination cannot cause the data to be messed with.
The lack of data meant that it was not showing the drop down, it was not a case that the code was changed.
Everything should now be peachy for players to upgrade from the internet.
The upgrade/download box opens and the editor begins to download, indicating the respective file in the box. It downloads new_orders.cfg and infodata.cfg all right, then new.exe. When the progress bar on new.exe is complete, it resets back to the beginning but in the box still says "Downloading: new.exe". At this point my Windows XP opens a box about terminating OrderEditor.exe and asks for a report to be sent to Microsoft.
AppName: ordereditor.exe AppVer: 0.0.0.0 ModName: ordereditor.exe
ModVer: 0.0.0.0 Offset: 0002b539