but
when i click on the differant tabs on the online editor they either dump me out of the editor or take me to the wrong page.
this is also the case when i choose ome of my turns to edit.
does this have somthing to do with the ccgi chage over?
I have definitely been getting back orders posted by other players, for other positions - just now got back a set of orders which included 'sell to local population' and 'use weapon practise' (?). These were for a ship, whose real orders were 'Request update'. I dont currently have ANY starbase positions.
It might be possible sensitive information could be 'leaked' this way.
I have noticed that forcing a 'refresh' on the web page does clear some of the annoying bugs, like the wrong position appearing, or being kicked back to the turns list when changing order type.
TonyH
| QUOTE (Jumping_Jack @ Sep 27 2005, 10:56 PM) |
| I have definitely been getting back orders posted by other players, for other positions - just now got back a set of orders which included 'sell to local population' and 'use weapon practise' (?). These were for a ship, whose real orders were 'Request update'. I dont currently have ANY starbase positions. TonyH |
The weapon practice order, is from Monster Island...
Looks like the CCGI site is horrible F***d up...
I didn't bothered to do lots of turns yesterday due to the slow irresponsive nature and the troubles I got making some orders.. Sometimes I need to retype the same order three times just to get it accepted...
Two of my ships tried to enter stargates in the wrong systems and another two tried to mass produce mods...
cheers
weenie
It happens with both ie and firefox, both at work and at home so it's unlikly to be a local setting. Also other people seem to get it too.
It's not a caching issue unless something caches the pages and ignored my browser's don't cache flags.
And i don't remember it happening before we moved to ccgi.
I'm just lucky so far that Mica (i assume as it was special actions) has managed to notice and not charge me for things like repeated special actions or ones that don't make sense for that position.
| QUOTE (ptb @ Oct 8 2005, 06:24 AM) |
| Okay this is by far the most annoying bug in the game for me, makes it almost impossible to do even basic turns. |
Seconded - I just tried to make an amendment to existing order... It deleted it from it's existing position, and added the amended order at the end of those for a completely different position - which meant that I had to go back and redo the original positions entire turn, since there is no way to insert an order in the online that I've found (PLEASE advise if I'm wrong).
This is findamental stuff, and should be A1 priority to sort, or at least acknowledge as the ISP's fault.
TonyH
| QUOTE (Jumping_Jack @ Oct 8 2005, 02:50 PM) |
| Since there is no way to insert an order in the online that I've found (PLEASE advise if I'm wrong). |
If you have an order selected right hand "issued orders" list then it inserts it just before that one when you click "issue"
If you select an order in the issued orders list to alter/edit it you can move it to a new position in the list the same way.
| QUOTE (ptb @ Oct 8 2005, 04:24 AM) |
| Okay this is by far the most annoying bug in the game for me, makes it almost impossible to do even basic turns. |
I use the off-line editor mostly, but I occaisionally use the on-line one to track ship locations. I've noticed the 'dump you out of the editor when you change tabs' problem and have found something that seems to work:
1) Change tabs and get the 'dumping you out to login page' error
2) QUICKLY hit the back button in your browser to take you back to the original page.
3) Change tab to where you were before and, voila, you see your page.
It's strange, kludgey and a bit of a hassle, but it seems to work for no reason I can think of
Your mileage may vary...
Cheers,
Rich Fanning
aka
Lord Lawrence Scrimm
CIA Intelligence Director
--Brian
| QUOTE (Brendon @ Oct 9 2005, 12:26 AM) |
| Just chiming in to let the powers that be know that yet another is having the same problems. A rapid fix would be most appreciated. --Brian |
Yup very annoying problem.
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hmmm Brendon
Is that coordinator at LARGE or OF LARGE. One should maybe have a look at the CIA when it comes to PIR.
i just use the refresh button and it seems to send me back to the page i was on, the only problem is that i am having to do this too many times while i sort out my orders, so what should take me two min or so is taking me ten!
If my username is invalid, how did you know to show me all my game positions and not anyone else's?
A fix would be appreciated as using the offline editor with email delays means I have to send turns 2 days in advance. I've missed a week of starbase production because of this. Very annoying.
Alun
| QUOTE (ATAT-Prime @ Oct 10 2005, 01:11 PM) |
| A fix would be appreciated as using the offline editor with email delays means I have to send turns 2 days in advance. I've missed a week of starbase production because of this. Very annoying. |
Have you tried using the offline editor with online upload at all Alun?
You may have to do this repeated times to get it to work but thats how i've been managing for the last few weeks.
| QUOTE (COH_Gord @ Oct 10 2005, 09:08 AM) |
| Is that coordinator at LARGE or OF LARGE. One should maybe have a look at the CIA when it comes to PIR. |
Good one!
Being cleared to neither confirm nor deny my own existence, I certainly can neither confirm nor deny anything else. I theorize on a purely personal level (assuming that I do exist), however, that were the CIA in any way responsible for Pirate Large's activity, he would be rather more of a nuisance to the IMP block and rather less to everyone else.
That being said, it would be appropriate to return to topic.
Has anyone heard from KJC about what (if anything) is being done so far? I only whine so loudly because I work from a Mac and can't use the off-line editor...
--Brian
Normally when I notice they go quiet then soon after billions of things get fixed and improved
Although I admit this ordereditor thing is really pissing me off.
| QUOTE |
| Although I admit this ordereditor thing is really pissing me off. |
you are not the only one. Its not due to any change in the code - its because they changed the php server.
Can any player confirm that they are suffering session drops when using Firefox?
From the F9 server forum:
My site that's deployed to the new ccgi server is behaving inconsistently
in terms of session management when being used by different browsers.
If I use Mozilla Firefox, the login page that I have written works as
expected, but when I use MS IE, I cannot log into my site at all.
I have read some posts concerning session issues and problems with access
to the /tmp folder - could this be related somehow?
Also - F9 have done some maintenance recently, can anyone confirm that they are still suffering today.
Sign in
Select new turn
Go to add order
Kicked out
Log back in
Submit an order
Realise I picked the wrong option from a drop-down box
Go to edit
Kicked out
Log back in
Then everything worked fine for the rest of my orders and turn-sending
I'll give it a go with IE today when I get home. Never actually seen any benefits to using Firefox over IE.
The offline editor baffles me.
I set IE to view the 'Information' page... and don't hit any tabs.
I enter orders with Firefox.
This has given best results so far...
BUT I still get dropped out as I change tabs in Firefox.
I'll be doing orders at lunchtime today... and will be able to see if Force 9 have repaired it...
Usually around 2pm... I'll report back then...
Thanks.
Doug.
| QUOTE (molotov @ Oct 11 2005, 12:48 PM) |
| Never actually seen any benefits to using Firefox over IE. The offline editor baffles me. |
Mainly security and tabbed browsing are the two differences. Although saying that, with Firefox becoming more prevalent more and more security risks are cropping up for it.
It's worth getting to grips with the offline editor, certainly if you're having lots of problems with the online editor.
| QUOTE |
I use the online order editor with both IE and firefox (at the same time)... I set IE to view the 'Information' page... and don't hit any tabs. I enter orders with Firefox. This has given best results so far... BUT I still get dropped out as I change tabs in Firefox. |
Both at the same time may be what's causing some issues for you, not knowing how the login scripts etc are set up I can't say for sure, but I believe two different first party cookies recieved by a server from the same IP may confuse matters?
There is also a timeout set for inactivity in the online editor, I've noticed - if you have a tab loaded and don't change tabs/edit anything on the page (IE turns) for a set length of time you get booted to the login screen.
TonyH
| QUOTE (Ro'a-lith @ Oct 11 2005, 01:34 PM) |
| There is also a timeout set for inactivity in the online editor, I've noticed - if you have a tab loaded and don't change tabs/edit anything on the page (IE turns) for a set length of time you get booted to the login screen. |
Yup, uses a session cookie called "POE_Orders", looks too me like it's deleted on closing the browser and on the server timeout (probably 10 minutes).
There is also an ip check because if i login at work then telnet home i can't login from there till the session times out.
The reaction of the pages looks to be like a caching issue most of the time, but that doesn't seem likly.
Loging in with one browser then another will probaly log you out of the first browser (or rather invalidate the first session)
Might have to try the new offline editor again, i still use the 1.3.3 one for some turns
| QUOTE (ptb @ Oct 11 2005, 01:01 PM) |
| Loging in with one browser then another will probaly log you out of the first browser (or rather invalidate the first session) |
I know logging in twice can't be good for anything...
but keeping IE set to the information page means that i don't have to switch Firefox back and forth to the Information page to check on what a position is up to...
And it don't need a session to stay on the same page and just expand/shrink the details...
less switching of tabs... means less getting booted out!
I've found I can get my turns done quicker If I use two browsers...
Odd... but there you go.... that's how it works best for me at the mo...
Doug.
| QUOTE |
| Yup, uses a session cookie called "POE_Orders", looks too me like it's deleted on closing the browser and on the server timeout (probably 10 minutes). |
Basically the session information is being totally lost at random times after login. The session used only seems to be different if you delete the cookie manually. This is not really making any sence to me at the moment, even when the session is wiped its using the same session id.
Other than that I can only suggest trying cookieless sessions
| CODE |
ini_set("arg_separator.output", "&"); ini_set("session.use_only_cookies", 0); ini_set("session.use_cookies", 0); |
Although that will probably have issues of it's own. However as it only started happening when you were moved to ccgi I have to assume it's a setting on that server, probably something tiny and obvoius that noone would ever think of checking
thats how these things always turn out it seems. | QUOTE |
| Although that will probably have issues of it's own. However as it only started happening when you were moved to ccgi I have to assume it's a setting on that server, probably something tiny and obvoius that noone would ever think of checking thats how these things always turn out it seems. |
They changed platform to something that has a bug that drops sessions randomly. Or so it seems from what we have read up on the internet.
So the online order editor will have this problem until i have shifted all the session stuff into the database.
We used to have cookieless sessions as the session data held until you closed the brower - which changed on day 1 of the transfer.
Is it still dropping out?
| QUOTE (Mica Goldstone @ Oct 12 2005, 03:36 PM) |
| We have just modified the code that should give it more stability although David is working on a more long-term solution. Is it still dropping out? |
I am getting some turns back at this moment.. but is it just me or is the online editor not updated???
| QUOTE (Mica Goldstone @ Oct 13 2005, 08:11 AM) |
| Okay, so I trust that no further complaints and one completely off-topic response is a thumbs up? |
well, the online editor info wasn't updated yesterday.. which is an big hassle as I use it for keeping track where my ships are...
anyway haven't tried the rest yet.. altough I have lost about an dozen orders for ships yesterday because the offline editor decided to crash... its very unstable.. under an standard windowx xp install.. Coudl it be possible to get an SAVE orders button or somethng like that, so that i don't need to exit the software ten times during an run??
At least I havn't noticed it go wrong with yesterdays turns.
Much better, so far. Three turns, no problems.
Thanks
| QUOTE (Mica Goldstone @ Oct 13 2005, 08:11 AM) |
| Okay, so I trust that no further complaints and one completely off-topic response is a thumbs up? |
Today went flawlessly for me.
Any problems anyone else may be experiencing are not due to CIA action... No, really... Trust me...
was able to waste less time than usual at work.
my line manager will be pleased.
Thanks.
Doug