Couple of calculations here, so please correct me if I'm wrong. First of all, Patch Mk3 are 175% of the output patch mk1 provide.
Using the example of 100 normal patches needed.
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Patch (45): 100 / 1.00 = 100 patches needed. Patch Mk3 (47): 100 / 1.75 = 58 patch mk3 needed (rounded up) |
So, with Patch Mk3 you theoretically need 58% of the number of patch mk1, right?
From the report on a 10 heavy hull ship:
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Integrity: 83.3% (8.3 patches) |
Three days later - no additional integrity loss between turns, no item uninstalls/installs:
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>TU 300: Maintenance Complex Visit 9 basic hull patches were used. Ship integrity restored to 100% Total TU cost for this action is 31 |
8.3 patches rounded up to 9 patches. The starbase in question only produces Patch Mk3, and only has patch mk3 stockpiled.
The maintenance visit should have used 5.22 patch mk3 (58% of 9), rounded up to 6 patch Mk3. I think?
Dan
| QUOTE (Dan Reed @ Jul 14 2005, 06:15 AM) |
| did the actual number of Mk3 patches go down by 9? It might just be a mis-reporting.... Dan |
Mk 3 give 150 repair (so 1.5x better)...though that would still give a 6 :-)
mark
Maintenance: FGZ Tsa'li (64933) used 6 Patch mkIIIs (47).
Guess it's just misreporting on the ship then
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| 9 basic hull patches were used. |
Its reported correct, it says it used basic patches. However on the starbase i believe it tells you exactly what was used. That way anyone using your maintenance does not know what you are using....
| QUOTE (Frabby @ Jul 14 2005, 10:52 AM) |
| Does that mean the ship will pay a patch price based on the hypothetical number of basic patches that would have been used then? |
From my experience, yes. So if it would have used 2 basic patches, it will pay the starbase for 2 basic patches, even if it has actually used 2 mkII patches...
Richard
AFT
| QUOTE (MasterTrader @ Jul 14 2005, 05:17 PM) | ||
From my experience, yes. So if it would have used 2 basic patches, it will pay the starbase for 2 basic patches, even if it has actually used 2 mkII patches... Richard AFT |
It would show as using 9...they would pay for 9....but in reality only use 6 mk 3. Which makes sense - you are getting paid more money for using higher tech items.
Mark
| QUOTE (FLZPD @ Jul 14 2005, 07:54 PM) |
| It would show as using 9...they would pay for 9....but in reality only use 6 mk 3. Which makes sense - you are getting paid more money for using higher tech items. |
That's not the point.
Say a maintenance visit actually needed the equivalent of 1.6 basic patches. The user would get charged the cost of two basic patches.
Since mkII patches provide the equivalent of 1.25 basic patches, you still need two mkII patches. So the visit will use up two mkII patches.
Overall effect is that you get paid for two basic patches, when you've actually used two mkII patches (so should theoretically have paid for 2.5 basic patches).
Richard
AFT
| QUOTE (MasterTrader @ Jul 15 2005, 05:44 PM) | ||
That's not the point. |
Sorry, but that is eactly the point of this thread - that patches shown as used on a ship deliberately differs to the amount that is actually used, dependant upon marque.
Ok, rounding at low patch use is a minor discrepancy to that. Is such a minor rounding such a big concern though - its only ever going to be one patch out....or is all the maintenance visits you are getting at such low levels? in which case I guess it could add up....but then, if it does just increase your price - or use basic patches so you dont waste the higher marque ones.
Mark